The [REFACTORED] Podcast

A casual, ongoing conversation between two technology leaders with Chris Tonkinson and Frank Koehl.

Technology

React.js, SCSS, Big-O, Kubernetes, TLS.
The guys have cut and run CAT5 through
plenum, built and racked servers, found
SQL Server performance bottlenecks, and
written a hell of a lot of good software.

Leadership

From Enterprise to small business, the
guys have managed and built teams for
years; serial entrepreneurs with strong
cross-functional acumen and a knack for
translating between "geek" and "human."

Shenanigans

Frank brings the energetic snark. Chris
brings the cranky optimism. Together,
they can barely get through a single show
without devolving into petty ad-hominem
attacks and, often, childish sound effects.

Recent Episodes


Refactored 165: "Counting Is Hard"

Wherein the guys time travel but Chris can't clone a repo.

published Apr 25, 2025
Show Notes


Refactored 164: "Vibe Check: Messrs. Dunning and Kruger Would Like a Word"

Wherein the guys autocomplete on steroids.

published Apr 25, 2025
Show Notes


Refactored 163: "It's Always Permissions (or DNS)"

Wherein the guys hate all databases.

published Apr 18, 2025
Show Notes


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