The [REFACTORED] Podcast

A casual, ongoing conversation between two technology leaders trying to suck less every day, with Chris Tonkinson and Frank Koehl.


React.js, SCSS, Big-O, Kubernetes, TLS.
The guys have cut and run CAT5 through
plenum, built and racked servers, found
SQL Server performance bottlenecks, and
written a hell of a lot of good software.


From Enterprise to small business, the
guys have managed and built teams for
years; serial entrepreneurs with strong
cross-functional acumen and a knack for
translating between "geek" and "human."


Frank brings the energetic snark. Chris
brings the cranky optimism. Together,
they can barely get through a single show
without devolving into petty ad-hominem
attacks and, often, childish sound effects.

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Recent Episodes

Refactored 026: "Bottom Line Up Front"

Wherein the guys want to destroy all humans.

recorded Jun 8, 2021
Show Notes

  • The guys agree, your goal should be oriented towards higher-order work.
  • Office Space killed the term “TPS Report.”
  • Chris draws a hard line: if it’s not in Git, it doesn’t exist. It’s unclear if he would accept Mercurial or Bazaar as acceptable substitutes.
  • Frank, reporting live on site from the eye of a hurricane, shares his thoughts on selling a project to your team, and your boss.
  • They guys proffer that perhaps - just maybe - your boss isn’t a club-wielding troglodyte.
  • The guys agree: you should probably automate some stuff.
  • Chris wonders whether “this Chief of Staff thing” is a newer trend, or he’s just been blind.
  • … and much more!

Refactored 025: "Multitasking Shmultitasking"

Wherein Frank loves hurting your feelings but Chris is a straight up killer.

recorded Jun 1, 2021
Show Notes

  • Multitasking - is it actually a thing? Generally… well, no. No, it’s not. Everyone agrees.
  • Does your team have to communicate up and down the Chain of Command for everything? You may have a chest-puffy boss or some lame-o teammates.
  • Chris reveals the true motivation of leadership: taking credit for the work of others.
  • Chris reveals his secret to professional succes: just don’t do stuff you don’t want to.
  • Edward G. Verlander has entered the chat as Frank promotes the Practice of Professional Consulting.
  • The guys vehemently agree, again, that the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is worthless. It’s nothing more than astrology for people who like taking tests.
  • Frank explains more about the CliftonStrengths assessment.
  • Frank makes a prediction: When Chris takes the CliftonStrength assessment, he and Frank will match on at least three of their top five categories.
  • The pick of the week is the CliftonStrengths assessment.
  • … and much more!

Refactored 024: "What We Wish We Knew"

Wherein Frank finally learns CSS and he's super proud of himself while Chris is riddled with cognitive biases.

recorded May 25, 2021
Show Notes

  • The guys used to be super weird about their résumés; they recount their youthful mis-applications of imagination.
  • Chris makes the case that you should ask more questions; no one will think less of you.
  • Frank points out that no one is out to get you, so it’s okay to be 87% less paranoid. 13% paranoid is okay though; that’s the offical Refactored Recommended Paranoia Quota™ (the “RRPQ”).
  • The guys explore some ways in which the brain plays tricks on you, like the actor-observer bias.
  • Go do the scary thing. Overcome “the flinch.” Make it a habit.
  • Max out your retirement offerings! (IRA, 401(k), etc.)
  • Quasimodo Chris recommends paying attention to your office ergonomics; it really compounds over time.
  • Frank makes a prediction: Loki will be shown to have been D.B. Cooper.
  • The pick of the week is twofold: the You Are Not So Smart podcast and the Brain Games show.
  • … and much more!

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